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		<title>Learn From Your Neighbours</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 06:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Instead of getting annoyed about a TV promotion (made by a third party and withdrawn as soon as they were aware of a problem) perhaps Indonesia needs to learn from the way their neighbour reacts when a religious group gets out of hand. SHAH ALAM, Malaysia – A Malaysian court charged six Muslims with sedition [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Instead of getting annoyed about a TV promotion (made by a third party and withdrawn as soon as they were aware of a problem) perhaps Indonesia needs to learn from the way their neighbour reacts when a religious group gets out of hand.</p>
<blockquote><p>SHAH ALAM, Malaysia – A Malaysian court charged six Muslims with sedition Wednesday for parading a severed cow head to protest the construction of a Hindu temple in a case that has stoked religious and racial tensions in this multiethnic country.</p>
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<p>Perhaps this is part of the reason that Noordin M. Top is in Indonesia; Malaysian authorities are not afraid of groups of people who think that their religion gives them an excuse for anarchy. Instead of accusing Malaysia of being the cause of the Noordin M. Top problem Indonesia needs some introspection.</p>
<p>When you look at the differences between how Malaysia treated this group and the way Indonesia pandered to the FPI and FUI which along with other Islamic groups when they attacked the Islamic moderates and the Ahmadiyah people.</p>
<p>Seeing this it is no surprise that Noordin thinks it is safer for himself and others of his ilk in Indonesia than in Malaysia. It is high time that the Islamic parties in indonesia were asked to explain whey they chose to be based on Islamic values rather than Pancasila values. Exactly what is it that they object to in Pancasila?</p>
<p>All of them fall over themselves to claim that they have no problem with other religions and that their religion is tolerant but there must be an explanation for their decision to base their parties on Islam rather than the national ideology.</p>
<p>It could be interesting if they were forced to give honest answers to the question.</p>
<p><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090909/ap_on_re_as/as_malaysia_temple_protest_2">Malaysia court charges 6 Muslims with sedition &#8211; Yahoo! News</a></p>
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		<title>Indonesia . . . The Rude Country</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 23:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Indonesians generally pride themselves on not offending other people but this seems to limited to their speech. In many other areas Indonesians are extremely rude and even offensive and they do this without even a hint of awareness. Take the way Indonesians drive. Here more than any other country that I have driven in, and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indonesians generally pride themselves on not offending other people but this seems to limited to their speech. In many other areas Indonesians are extremely rude and even offensive and they do this without even a hint of awareness.</p>
<p>Take the way Indonesians drive. Here more than any other country that I have driven in, and the list includes over 60 countries including many in Africa, people are impatient and will cut you off to get in front, even just to stop and park a hundred meters further down the road. many times I have been cut off by a public minibus with the driver forcing his way in front only to have them drive slowly in front of me. The “me first” attitude takes precedence over any kind of good manners.</p>
<p>In banks, at airport counters and supermarket checkouts many Indonesians will just cut in front and when rebuked take offense. Any Indonesian in any sort of position of power will just refuse to queue at all simply walking to the front of the line, often with a herd of handlers pushing others out of the way.</p>
<p>Another example of rudeness is the way that the whole country is run at full volume. Every mosque, cafe, PA system or any other form of amplifier is driven to maximum distortion level in the search for more volume. Recently the primary school across the road from my house started playing music over their PA system starting at 06:00 AM in the morning and naturally it is at maximum volume.</p>
<p>At least four of the almost twenty mosques that can be heard from my house have upgraded their amplifiers in the past few months and are also pumping out maximum volume in a hideous cacophony of sound that lasts not just the few minutes for the call to prayer but for more than half an hour. At the maternity hospital where my wife gave birth a mosque just down the road had one of the loudest sound systems I have heard and had the call to prayer lasting for about an hour each time with two of the loudspeakers aimed directly at the hospital.</p>
<p>I have just begun mentioning this sort of thing to my friends and acquaintances. Westerners here are often thought to be rude by their direct speech (in comparison to the locals) but there are very few westerners who would even contemplate playing music at maximum volume early in the morning on a normal stereo, far less over a PA system.</p>
<p>Most westerners would not consider this clever or in any way indicative of status, they would simply consider it rude and offensive.</p>
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