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		<title>Learn From Your Neighbours</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 06:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Instead of getting annoyed about a TV promotion (made by a third party and withdrawn as soon as they were aware of a problem) perhaps Indonesia needs to learn from the way their neighbour reacts when a religious group gets out of hand. SHAH ALAM, Malaysia – A Malaysian court charged six Muslims with sedition [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Instead of getting annoyed about a TV promotion (made by a third party and withdrawn as soon as they were aware of a problem) perhaps Indonesia needs to learn from the way their neighbour reacts when a religious group gets out of hand.</p>
<blockquote><p>SHAH ALAM, Malaysia – A Malaysian court charged six Muslims with sedition Wednesday for parading a severed cow head to protest the construction of a Hindu temple in a case that has stoked religious and racial tensions in this multiethnic country.</p>
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<p>Perhaps this is part of the reason that Noordin M. Top is in Indonesia; Malaysian authorities are not afraid of groups of people who think that their religion gives them an excuse for anarchy. Instead of accusing Malaysia of being the cause of the Noordin M. Top problem Indonesia needs some introspection.</p>
<p>When you look at the differences between how Malaysia treated this group and the way Indonesia pandered to the FPI and FUI which along with other Islamic groups when they attacked the Islamic moderates and the Ahmadiyah people.</p>
<p>Seeing this it is no surprise that Noordin thinks it is safer for himself and others of his ilk in Indonesia than in Malaysia. It is high time that the Islamic parties in indonesia were asked to explain whey they chose to be based on Islamic values rather than Pancasila values. Exactly what is it that they object to in Pancasila?</p>
<p>All of them fall over themselves to claim that they have no problem with other religions and that their religion is tolerant but there must be an explanation for their decision to base their parties on Islam rather than the national ideology.</p>
<p>It could be interesting if they were forced to give honest answers to the question.</p>
<p><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090909/ap_on_re_as/as_malaysia_temple_protest_2">Malaysia court charges 6 Muslims with sedition &#8211; Yahoo! News</a></p>
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		<title>Population control &#8216;a weapon of the West&#8217; &#124; The Jakarta Post</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 05:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Young Indonesian muslims are convinced that attempts by their government to control the exploding population in Indonesia are a western plot and stated this at an event organized by Hizbut Tahrir in Jakarta. The fact that they are advocating a return to a caliphate system of government just a few days after the bombing of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Young Indonesian muslims are convinced that attempts by their government to control the exploding population in Indonesia are a western plot and stated this at an event organized by Hizbut Tahrir in Jakarta. The fact that they are advocating a return to a caliphate system of government just a few days after the bombing of two hotels seems to have slipped past the various security bodies in the country searching for clues as to why this sort of thing keeps happening.</p>
<blockquote><p>At Ragunan Sports Center in South Jakarta, speakers at the conference titled, “Young Muslims, save Indonesia with Sharia and the Caliphate” asked the young attendants to reject contraception based on the rationale that reducing the population would weaken the country and draw it further into the conspiracy plans of the West.</p>
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<p>The scariest thing about this is that they seem to really believe this! It is hard to know where to start with an answer to people who are this stupid. That is the best judgement that I can make of these people because absent a highly sophisticated brainwashing program I cannot for the life of me come up with a better&#160; reason for such a lame conspiracy theory.</p>
<p>Here is another quote.</p>
<blockquote><p>Cicin Yulianti, a student activist from the Bogor Institute of Agriculture, elaborated on the “genocide” conspiracy further, saying that more people in Islamic countries would increase the possibility of stronger human resources.</p>
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<p>When you have a group this gullible it seems that it would be easy pickings for the likes of Noordin Top to find someone willing to blow himself to smithereens as long as he can take some of the hated westerners with him.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2009/07/27/population-control-%E2%80%98a-weapon-west%E2%80%99.html">Population control ‘a weapon of the West’ | The Jakarta Post</a></p>
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