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		<title>Population control &#8216;a weapon of the West&#8217; &#124; The Jakarta Post</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 05:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Young Indonesian muslims are convinced that attempts by their government to control the exploding population in Indonesia are a western plot and stated this at an event organized by Hizbut Tahrir in Jakarta. The fact that they are advocating a return to a caliphate system of government just a few days after the bombing of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Young Indonesian muslims are convinced that attempts by their government to control the exploding population in Indonesia are a western plot and stated this at an event organized by Hizbut Tahrir in Jakarta. The fact that they are advocating a return to a caliphate system of government just a few days after the bombing of two hotels seems to have slipped past the various security bodies in the country searching for clues as to why this sort of thing keeps happening.</p>
<blockquote><p>At Ragunan Sports Center in South Jakarta, speakers at the conference titled, “Young Muslims, save Indonesia with Sharia and the Caliphate” asked the young attendants to reject contraception based on the rationale that reducing the population would weaken the country and draw it further into the conspiracy plans of the West.</p>
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<p>The scariest thing about this is that they seem to really believe this! It is hard to know where to start with an answer to people who are this stupid. That is the best judgement that I can make of these people because absent a highly sophisticated brainwashing program I cannot for the life of me come up with a better&#160; reason for such a lame conspiracy theory.</p>
<p>Here is another quote.</p>
<blockquote><p>Cicin Yulianti, a student activist from the Bogor Institute of Agriculture, elaborated on the “genocide” conspiracy further, saying that more people in Islamic countries would increase the possibility of stronger human resources.</p>
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<p>When you have a group this gullible it seems that it would be easy pickings for the likes of Noordin Top to find someone willing to blow himself to smithereens as long as he can take some of the hated westerners with him.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2009/07/27/population-control-%E2%80%98a-weapon-west%E2%80%99.html">Population control ‘a weapon of the West’ | The Jakarta Post</a></p>
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		<title>Indonesia . . . The Rude Country</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 23:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Indonesians generally pride themselves on not offending other people but this seems to limited to their speech. In many other areas Indonesians are extremely rude and even offensive and they do this without even a hint of awareness. Take the way Indonesians drive. Here more than any other country that I have driven in, and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indonesians generally pride themselves on not offending other people but this seems to limited to their speech. In many other areas Indonesians are extremely rude and even offensive and they do this without even a hint of awareness.</p>
<p>Take the way Indonesians drive. Here more than any other country that I have driven in, and the list includes over 60 countries including many in Africa, people are impatient and will cut you off to get in front, even just to stop and park a hundred meters further down the road. many times I have been cut off by a public minibus with the driver forcing his way in front only to have them drive slowly in front of me. The “me first” attitude takes precedence over any kind of good manners.</p>
<p>In banks, at airport counters and supermarket checkouts many Indonesians will just cut in front and when rebuked take offense. Any Indonesian in any sort of position of power will just refuse to queue at all simply walking to the front of the line, often with a herd of handlers pushing others out of the way.</p>
<p>Another example of rudeness is the way that the whole country is run at full volume. Every mosque, cafe, PA system or any other form of amplifier is driven to maximum distortion level in the search for more volume. Recently the primary school across the road from my house started playing music over their PA system starting at 06:00 AM in the morning and naturally it is at maximum volume.</p>
<p>At least four of the almost twenty mosques that can be heard from my house have upgraded their amplifiers in the past few months and are also pumping out maximum volume in a hideous cacophony of sound that lasts not just the few minutes for the call to prayer but for more than half an hour. At the maternity hospital where my wife gave birth a mosque just down the road had one of the loudest sound systems I have heard and had the call to prayer lasting for about an hour each time with two of the loudspeakers aimed directly at the hospital.</p>
<p>I have just begun mentioning this sort of thing to my friends and acquaintances. Westerners here are often thought to be rude by their direct speech (in comparison to the locals) but there are very few westerners who would even contemplate playing music at maximum volume early in the morning on a normal stereo, far less over a PA system.</p>
<p>Most westerners would not consider this clever or in any way indicative of status, they would simply consider it rude and offensive.</p>
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